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CJ797
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It looks like a new bill has been introduced. House Bill 154


www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=154&GAID=12&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=69138&SessionID=85&GA=98
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Unfortunately that doesn't spell out s...t and you know with
"Provides for home rule preemption." if you in Chicago you SOL.

I'm just as happy if they fight about it for 6 months.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There is some favorable wording in the proposed legislation:

Quote:
A community college, college, or university may
prohibit the carrying of a firearm on its campus in a
manner that is not inconsistent with subsection (d). If a
community college, college, or university elects to
prohibit the carrying of firearms on its campus, it shall
be civilly liable for any injury from a criminal act upon a
person holding a permit for carrying a concealed firearm
who was prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm on the
premises.


Makes way for storage of firearm in locked vehicle on private property:

Quote:
Any person licensed under this Act who is prohibited
from carrying a concealed firearm into a building by the
provisions of subsection (a) or under an ordinance, resolution,
or policy adopted in accordance with subsection (b) or (c)
shall be permitted to store that firearm or ammunition out of
plain sight in his or her locked vehicle or in a locked
compartment or container within or securely affixed to the
outside of the vehicle.


Doesn't cost much and lasts 5 years:

Quote:
New license: $65.
Renewal of license: $25.
Duplicate license due to lost or destroyed: $25.
Corrected license due to change of address or name: $25.
Late renewal fee: $25.


Training requirements:

Quote:
(a) Applicants shall provide proof of completion of at
least one of the following courses:
(1) NRA Basic Personal Protection In The Home Course.
(2) NRA Basics of Personal Protection Outside The Home
Course.
(3) NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Course.
(4) Any other firearms training course of at least 4
hours that covers the following:
(A) handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on
the firing range, and while carrying the firearm;
(B) the basic principles of marksmanship;
(C) care and cleaning of handguns;
(D) laws relating to the justifiable use of force.
(b) Applicants shall provide proof of certification by a
certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire
exercise with a handgun consisting of:
(1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and
(2) 20 rounds from a distance of 7 yards and 10 rounds
from a distance of 15 yards at a B-21 silhouette or
equivalent target as approved by the Department.


Applications for the permit available 90 days from the enactment of the legislation:

Quote:
The Department shall make applications for a license
available no later than 90 days after the effective date of
this Act.


Overall requirements:
Quote:
6 The Department shall issue a license to an applicant completing
7 an application in accordance with Section 30 of this Act if the
8 person:
9 (a) is at least 21 years of age;
10 (b) has a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card or,
11 if applying for a non-resident license, has a notarized
12 document stating that the applicant is eligible under
13 federal law and the laws of his or her home state to
14 possess a firearm;
15 (c) is not prohibited under the Firearm Owners
16 Identification Card Act or federal law from possessing or
17 receiving a firearm;
18 (d) is not the subject of a pending arrest warrant,
19 prosecution, or proceeding for an offense or action that
20 could lead to disqualification under subsection (c);
21 (e) does not chronically or habitually abuse alcoholic
22 beverages, as evidenced by either of the following within
23 the 3 years immediately preceding the application:
24 (i) residential or court-ordered treatment for
25 alcoholism or alcohol detoxification; or
1 (ii) 2 or more convictions for driving while under
2 the influence or driving while intoxicated; and
3 (f) has completed firearms training and any
4 educational component required in Section 85 of this Act.


Compared to many states, this is a good piece of legislation. But it all seems such an awful complicated effort to exercise your God-given human right to self defense, sheesh!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I say tell them all to pack sand! If nothing gets voted on then we'll get Constitution Carry with a foid in June. How can Chicago get around it? Another ban that was shot down by their all mighty federal court? I say vote everything down and we get the Constitution Carry!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Doesn't sound bad, however pounding sand is even more preferable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I would like to see an exemption for the required class for military vets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OIFMarine wrote:
I would like to see an exemption for the required class for military vets.


As would I.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From page 25

(i) Persons with the following training or certifications
2 are exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) of this
3 Section:
4 (1) An NRA certified instructor.
5 (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm
6 as a retired law enforcement officer.
7 (3) Any active, retired, or honorably discharged
8 member of the armed forces who held a combat related
9 military occupation specialty (MOS).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What is considered a combat MOS?

All mos deploy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I kinda thought the same thing... I thought all MOS were subject to deployment.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OIFMarine wrote:
I would like to see an exemption for the required class for military vets.


But but but, bloomburg says your to stupid to have a firearm....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

CJ797 wrote:
From page 25

5 (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm


What does that mean?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If bloomburg says it, it must be true. *takes a nice big sip out of my 64oz gas station fountain pop*.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not all MOS's deploy to combat zones. I went to high school with a kid that joined the Air Force that did body work on Gov vehicles. Not military gov vehicles, I mean like minivans and crap down at Scott AFB. That was his job. He picked it because it ensured he'd never leave CONUS.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SiliconSorcerer wrote:
CJ797 wrote:
From page 25

5 (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm


What does that mean?


The 5 was the line number on the page when I did a copy and paste. Line 6 has the rest of the text.
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