Need info on "container carry" requirements

Corporal Joined: Mar 16, 2010 Posts: 525

I am trying to find information on what the courts here in Illinois have ruled as "container carry" and what is required.
What I'm particularly interested in is if, when the gun is in its "container" (center console, glovebox, fanny pack, etc.), does the speed-loader or magazine have to be in a separate container? Can the speed-loader or magazine be IN the same container, just not in the gun?
If anybody has a link to this information, please post it.

Thanks!

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:25 pm

In container carry the ammo can be in the same container, but not in weapon. Mag loaded, speed loader loaded but not in weapon. In Diggins vs Illinois (page 3 and 4) it was ruled that a glove box, console is a container or case. In Chicago, that may be something else again, as they interpet the law different. Hope this helps.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:37 pm

Quote "In Chicago, that may be something else again, as they interpet the law different."

So very true.

Member **Founders Club** Joined: Dec 12, 2007 Posts: 4436

Ammo can be in the same container and in a mag. Check the faq on the ILSP website

Corporal Joined: Mar 16, 2010 Posts: 525

Thanks for the info.

I was at a "meet & greet" for some GOP candidates the other day and we wre discussing that. They thought the ammo had to be in a different location, such as gun in center console, mag in glovebox. I thought it was OK to have them together as long as not "in" the gun. I just needed help to find out where the info could be found.

Thanks again!

Member **Founders Club** Joined: Dec 12, 2007 Posts: 4436

Local municipalities could restrict it further

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:10 am

If any municipality enacts/enforces a law that is contradictory to the U.S. Constitution.., they should lose any/all federal government assistance! Opps, I forgot!!! The federal government needs a leader before that could ever happen!

Corporal Joined: Mar 16, 2010 Posts: 525

Here's a link that might be of interest. It is the FAQ's on the ISP website and has the info about "container carry" about half way down the page.
(text below link)

http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

How can I legally transport a firearm on my person or in my vehicle?
There is more than one way to legally transport a firearm. However, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, it is recommended all firearms be transported:
Unloaded,
Enclosed in a case and,
By persons who have a valid FOID card.

What constitutes a legal "case" for transporting a firearm?
The Criminal Code refers to "a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container." However, the Wildlife Code is more specific, defining case as "a container specifically designed for the purpose of housing a gun or bow and arrow device which completely encloses such gun or bow and arrow device by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no portion of the gun or bow and arrow device exposed."

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:31 pm

I understand that transportation requirements under the wildlife code have recently changed to mirror Illinois transport law.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:48 pm

What it boils down to is that you may transport a firearm as long as it is unloaded, if the ammunition and firearm are placed in such a position as to render aforementioned firearm TOTALLY USELESS in the event you are assaulted/attacked or threatened by one or more individuals intent on causing serious physical injury or death.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:05 pm

DownHomeCharlie tells it like it is!

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:23 pm

That was a mouthful!!! I got a little short of breath just typing that line.

Initiate Joined: Mar 05, 2011 Posts: 38

See attached PDF link

Corporal Joined: Jul 20, 2007 Posts: 871

The big problem that still exists, if your not willing to plan for legal fees don't push the envelope. That's just sad...

Lieutenant Joined: Nov 12, 2009 Posts: 2429

SiliconSorcerer wrote:

The big problem that still exists, if your not willing to plan for legal fees don't push the envelope. That's just sad...

yep.. technically I could carry a small pistol in my pocket if it's in a ziplock bag and unloaded. but bad idea