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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Since I can't find the original thread on the Madison 5 I'll start a new one.

Here is an email I just received from Wisconsin Carry.

For immediate release:

Last fall five Wisconsin Carry members were peacefully enjoying dinner at a Madison area Culvers restaurant. Like thousands of Wisconsin residents, they carry a sidearm for self-defense as a daily practice in the only manner currently provided by Wisconsin law. After a 911 caller inquired as to the legality of open-carry, Madison police arrived en masse and illegally demanded identification from all five. Two members who politely declined to provide ID were wrongfully cited for obstruction of justice. (Wisconsin, a free state, does not require you produce identification when you have done nothing wrong.) Those citations were rescinded 2 days later and all 5 were mailed citations for disorderly conduct despite no evidence of a disturbance. Details of that initial incident are available on Wisconsin Carry's website www.wisconsincarry.org. Click on the "Sept. 23rd 2010" blog heading for details including the audio of the 911 call.

Wisconsin Carry filed a federal civil lawsuit against the City of Madison and Police Chief Noble Wray on September 29, 2010. That lawsuit can be viewed here: http://www.wisconsincarry.org/pdf/Madison/MadisonComplaint.pdf

Wisconsin Carry also retained, on behalf of our members, notable defense attorney Chris Van Wagner, principal of the Madison law firm Van Wagner & Wood http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/ to contest the wrongfully issued disorderly conduct citations.

Today, Wisconsin Carry is pleased to announce that Attorney Van Wagner has informed us that all of the charges against the "Madison 5" have been dismissed. According to Attorney Van Wagner "The Madison City Attorney agreed after a full review of the police investigation and 911 call that there was absolutely no disturbance created by our members and that the disorderly conduct citations were inappropriate". Van Wagner also added that "The ONLY disturbance created on that Saturday evening was by a mass of uniformed Madison police officers and squads arriving to investigate law-abiding citizens having dinner"

Questions about this incident and subsequent actions by Wisconsin Carry and our attorney may be directed to Wisconsin Carry or Attorney Chris Van Wagner. Wisconsin Carry will shortly be filing a second civil lawsuit against Madison Police Chief Noble Wray and the City of Madison to obtain damages on behalf of our members for their wrongful detainment and costs associated with disposing of
the citations.

Wisconsin Carry, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of the ability of law-abiding Wisconsin residents to legally carry in the manner of their choosing (open or concealed).

Carry On,

Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.

"It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it." Oliver Cromwell
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Madison - 36 square miles surrounded by reality!
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think we all kinda knew this was going to be the outcome.

But Chief Wray decided he was going to try to throw his weight around, hoping to intimidate lawful WI citizens.

I would hope this would pre-empt any further illegal citations, but certainly wouldn't hold my breathe.

Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway - John Wayne
When your holding a hammer everything looks like a nail - Bryan Glover
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