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Rocbola
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The plastic guide rod melted and fell out, and the gun kept firing!

He claimed the plastic frame kept cool.

68 magazines lined up on a table, and he shoots through every round, within a few minutes.

Pretty repetitive video, (bang, bang, bang, bang, x1000) but worth watching.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI&
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZxQfIBXDc&
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Rocbola wrote:
The plastic guide rod melted and fell out, and the gun kept firing!

He claimed the plastic frame kept cool.

68 magazines lined up on a table, and he shoots through every round, within a few minutes.

Pretty repetitive video, (bang, bang, bang, bang, x1000) but worth watching.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI&
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZxQfIBXDc&


999 rounds? sixth magazine, FTF?


EDIT === i jumped the gun, watching more of this it happens more often.

ok i only need 48 more magazines, and ill record this same video but with my XDm. no plastic guide rod here.
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MichaelChappell
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

MitchBeasley wrote:
Rocbola wrote:
The plastic guide rod melted and fell out, and the gun kept firing!

He claimed the plastic frame kept cool.

68 magazines lined up on a table, and he shoots through every round, within a few minutes.

Pretty repetitive video, (bang, bang, bang, bang, x1000) but worth watching.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI&
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZxQfIBXDc&


999 rounds? sixth magazine, FTF?


EDIT === i jumped the gun, watching more of this it happens more often.

ok i only need 48 more magazines, and ill record this same video but with my XDm. no plastic guide rod here.


Wait... you have 20 mags for your XDm??!! Preparedness has been acheived my friend!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

no no. though i do wish. only 53 mags total are needed to contain 1,000 rounds with the XDm's capacity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Why didn't he use the 33 round mags? Then he would only need 31 mags.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok, who wants to donate a Glock 19 and 1,000 rounds of ammo? That looked fun.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

TylerHooker wrote:
Ok, who wants to donate a Glock 19 and 1,000 rounds of ammo? That looked fun.


i will donate the primers

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Rocbola
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

TylerHooker wrote:
Ok, who wants to donate a Glock 19 and 1,000 rounds of ammo? That looked fun.
Any gun will do. Anyone with an XD or a sig or any glock, or whatever. I'd love to see how different guns stack up against a test like this. It would be useful info for anyone who is in the market for a new pistol. If we got 10-20 people to each put in a box of 50-100 rounds we could do this cheaply. I'd throw in a box of cheap wal-mart ammo.

Whichever gun we can find the most magazines for......
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

6 jams all due to limpwristing one guy had all the jams

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd love to test my Sig 226. As soon as I get a backup gun. I'm sure it would pass with flying colors, but I'd want one just to be on the safe side.

How did the spring guide rod melt, that should be made out of stainless steel. At least I think they are with the Sigs. Must be poor craftsmanship. haha just kidding.

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Rocbola
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Its plastic on the glock, and i always thought it looked a little weak. It took about 800 rounds within about 10 minutes to cause it to melt, and the gun still fired through many mags after than, but still a weak link in the chain. They make stainless steel guide rods aftermarket, which i may check into now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

And that is why I am biased toward Sigs. Quality craftsmanship. They don't skimp out. They are reliable as hell. Sure under normal conditions the plastic will be fine, but over time you will build up structural deficiencies and may need to replace it.

Do you know if any other manufacturers use plastic guide rods? I'm sure there are. I just want to know which ones they are.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Guide rod???? We don't need no stinking guide rod!!!!! Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dorkweed wrote:
Guide rod???? We don't need no stinking guide rod!!!!! Cool Cool


yes you do

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

6010rocks wrote:
Dorkweed wrote:
Guide rod???? We don't need no stinking guide rod!!!!! Cool Cool


yes you do





Don't go getting all technical on me now!!! Shocked Almost 200 rounds fired after it shot out of the gun...........pretty darn good IMHO!!!! Weak link......maybe. A good upgrade...........yeah probably. Absolutely needed.......probably not in normal use.
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