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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am a Utah CCW permit holder and an Illinois resident. I have had my UT permit for about two years now, and any time I've been in a jurisdiction that respects my right to CCW, I do. I recently had the occasion to take a road trip out to Phoenix, AZ. As soon as I hit the Illinois/Missouri border (on the Missouri side!), I strapped on and took advantage of my CCW permit.

Of all of the times that I've CCW, I've NEVER had to use it. That is, of course, what all of us would hope for.

...Until this time...

On my way home, I stopped in Dallas, TX to meet a friend for lunch and to purchase some computer equipment from a company in Carrollton, TX that I met on eBay. It was about 12PM on a bright and sunny day. I first had to stop at a bank to make a withdrawal.

As I pulled into the bank parking lot, I observed a male Hispanic sitting on a pickle barrel at the South corner of the lot. I parked my car and went inside the bank (first observing that there were no signs posted that said I couldn't have my weapon on me) and withdrew a "sizable" amount of cash at a teller window. I counted all of my money in front of the teller, and then stored it on my person. (I did not walk out of the bank counting my money.)

As I walked out of the second set of double doors, the man from my earlier observation approached me. He was on my right, and almost literally in my face.

He said, "I saw you got lots of money. How about you show it to me?"

I swung the right side of my body back and bladed myself to him, and I then swept my vest open to expose my holstered pistol. I rested my hand on the butt of my gun and said, "I don't think that's such a good idea. Do you?"

I don't think I've ever seen someone try to run away from me faster.

I later consulted with a Carrollton, TX police officer and discussed the situation that I experienced. He told me that the CCW laws were created in his great state for stories exactly like this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That's a great story. The best part, IMHO, is that CCW allows you to stop a crime without any violence needed. Of course, that isn't always the case, but your story shows that you weren't robbed, and no violence was used. What a great testimonial. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just joined the forum, and was looking through some of these great stories and admire the authors for their time and effort.

I have owned and fired many weapons since I was 7, I was born and raised on the farm and my father taught me good safe practice and respect of handling a firearm.

I live in central Illinois in a small town, we use to have nice a quiet evening here up until about 5 years ago. We had some ex gangbagers move into the town I live in and nothing has been the same since then, and all the other towns around us have the same problems we have here in my town. Hi crime rate, gun fire in town, drug dealers, and vandals. About 2 years ago my wife and children returned home after a 2 week vacation to find our yard decorations destroyed and beer bottle all over the front lawn. My neighbor told us that the people down the street had had a huge gang party, with loud music all night one nite, which this is common. We were tired and I would call the police Monday and report the damage to the officers. At 4:00 in the morning my wife and I woke to loud gun fire that was coming from down the street from us, we allerted the neighbors by phone to take cover as the gun fire continued. Our local county Police were flooded with 911 calls. I grabbed my Sig P250 and my wifes 380 and headed to the front door, my wife called one of the county deputies that I know personally and told them what I was wearing and where I was at so the police did not try and shoot me or arrest me. As soon as the police started to arrive, the shooters vanished into their homes. I had a State trooper and outer county officers approach me then asking what was going on. They noticed I had a gun in my hand, and the officer of the outside county ordered me to surrender the weapon to him. I was standing with in my property at the time, and the State trooper asked me to pocket the sig or unload it because it made him nervous. I had no problem with doing that at the time, but the out of county officer wanted me arrested then. The State Trooper explained my rights to the out of county officer and it was dropped. In the mean time no arrest were made until a few days later, when they caught one of the alleged gangmembers with a gun and he snitched on his fellow buds. My family and neighbors were threatened by their friends and other gang members, they told many of us they would bring down the big dogs from Chicago and shut this town down. Many of us talked with State and county officers trying to make this problem go away, with no answer.

It was not till a few days later that my wife and I decided to clean our 3 hand guns out on the front porch for all to see, several of my neigbors and I all did this 2 or 3 times in a 2 week period. The threats stopped the party's, everything!

If Illinois would just give use the right to conceal and carry, it would be a better place. The criminals need to know we are tired of this, plus keeping them afraid and asking themselves, "Does he have a gun ya think?" will slow crime down, its not going to stop it. But it will help.

Me showing the gang bangers that I own and have neighbors with guns keeps them worried some what. If one were to come into my home in a break in, I am prepared to defend my self and so is my wife and she is a crack shot with the 380.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

pyle great story thats what guns are for. now if only you could organize an open carry block party.
the laws variation from state to state and county to county are amazing in montana you can open carry as young as 14 yrs old.

is it 18 or 21 in wisconsin?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have a really screwed up story to tell everyone about something that happened to me.

I had a very abusive ex-husband who I was married to for four years, but been divorced from five years, and can still not be free from him. We are talking about a person that put his own two year old son in a 350 degree oven, caused me to have six miscarriages, left me to die numerous times from being beaten near to death, and they just put him in prison for about fourteen months at a time and he always gets out on good behavior. He follows me everywhere that I move to, and the judicial system just keeps letting him go. He has swore that he will kill me if he ever gets the chance, but he decided to get me another way, and his plan worked.

I was on my way home about two years ago, when my son just out of the blue said mom, dad is following us, I looked in my mirror, and he was right.

I went home and called the police and filed a report about him following me around, because he is not to be anywhere near my children or myself.

The next day I dropped my children off at the babysitters, and proceeded to go to work. When I arrived at work, I went to park my car to get out and go into work, when my ex-husband jumps in the back seat of my car, and puts a scarf of some sort around my neck, and tells me to drive or I you will be dead.

I drove where he told me to, and the next thing I remember is waking up with a huge knot on my head and in a open field behind a walmart. I called 911 and received some help, when they were told that it was my ex-husband the same one I had called in a report on the day before, they went to work on trying to find him.

Well to make a long story short, they found that he arrived back in his home town in Arkansas, and he was arrested there. I was allowed to walk around outside my home wearing my gun on my side for my protection until it was all over.

They impounded my car for evidence, had detectives and police escort my children back and forth to school, and I could not go anywhere unless I had a police escort also.

When I went to court - now this is the killer - I was arrested for filing a false police report because they could not find no evidence to back up my story. He covered his tracks very well, wore gloves so there were no fingerprints, I even passed a lie detector test, and I had a perfect criminal background, and his criminal background was five miles long all away back when he was 12 years old, but I was the one that got in trouble.

I had to do 240 hours of community service, had to attend parenting classes for 14 weeks, and they took my guns and my boyfriends away, and I was given one year of probation, for something I never did in the first place. This is how sick and f-------- up our judicial system is, I could not afford an attorney either, so I was stuck with a public defender.


But I will always believe in this one thing,, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!!!! eventually they will pay!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This sounds outrageous, but it's really not unbelievable given our judicial system today. The victim is always punished worse than the perpetrator. Soon enough, we'll be like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan putting women in jail or executing them for getting raped.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

he was able to have guns legally? this world is frigged up
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My story would have to be when i was 18yrs old. I was at my uncles home in Dixon and he was showing me all of his reloading equipment,gunsmithing gear and all of the firearms he owned. He then handed me a semi-auto of some caliber and said I could go out front and shoot of some rounds. (He lives in the middle of nowhere).

So I wander out to the front yard and decide to put a full clip into his mailbox. OOOOPS I thought and ran and gave him the gun back. He asked what I shot and me being stupidly honest I told him. He said that it was o.k. because he had to replace it anyways because it was rusting away. So he proceeds to take me out back and hands me a bolt action 45-70. I didn't know the caliber at the time but he told me to sit up on the chair and get comfortable.

So I sighted in the metal coyote he had 100yds down range and he said fire when ready. So me having never shot a rifle I put my eye right up to the scope and pulled the trigger. Next thing I know I am on my back looking up at him with something warm running down my forehead. I had given myself a half moon slice. He said I hit the base of the coyote but it would have got away, so my cut was for nothing I thought. I will always remember this because my father and my uncle just let it happen and laughed their asses off at me. Those were some good times and thanks for letting me share my story. Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Senior citizen holds suspected burglar at gunpoint until police arrive.

Written by Tactical-Life.com. Author Archive »

He’s 70 years old, and his health isn’t what it used to be, but Raymond Michel is not someone who should be taken lightly.

The south Bakersfield resident shot at a suspected burglar in his house Wednesday afternoon and held the man at gunpoint until police arrived. The suspect, identified by police as John Jenaro Garner, tried to get up twice, but Michel warned him to stay down.

“I told my wife to call the cops because (the burglar) was staying here one way or another,” Michel said.

Bakersfield police Lt. Andrew Garner, no relation to the supsect, confirmed that Raymond Michel was the man who shot at the suspect.

Michel and his wife, Dawn, had returned home on Ivan Avenue about 1 p.m. after taking their grandson to a doctor’s appointment. The 9-year-old grandson noticed a light on in a downstairs bedroom and asked his grandmother if she had left it on.

Dawn Michel said she looked in the room and noticed some items weren’t where they were supposed to be. Then she and her grandson went outside and saw a garbage bag on the ground, along with a window screen that had been knocked out of a second-floor window. Jewelry and money were in the bag.

Dawn Michel told her husband someone had been in the house. Raymond Michel said he armed himself with a handgun and walked upstairs.

Items from the bedroom closet were strewn about the floor, and Raymond Michel noticed that the bathroom door was almost completely closed. He and his wife always keep that door open.

He kicked the door, and it stopped partway as it struck the intruder, Raymond Michel said. The suspect stepped from behind the door and leveled a rifle at the homeowner, he said.

Raymond Michel, who said he was holding his handgun at waist level, pulled the trigger. The bullet went through the door, shattered the upper left corner of the mirror and entered the wall.

The suspect dropped to the floor, and Raymond Michel at first thought he had hit him. But then the intruder tried to get up, Raymond Michel said.

Raymond Michel said he told him to stay down and kept the gun pointed at him. His wife called 911.

The dispatcher asked Dawn Michel, who was still downstairs, if she could go upstairs and make sure her husband was all right, Dawn Michel said. But she had two grandchildren in the house who she needed to keep safe, and she wasn’t going anywhere until police arrived.

Read the rest of Jason Kotowski’s article at Bakersfield.com.
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This happened one block from the house where I grew up and that my dad still lives in.


Police praised the efforts of a patrol officer Friday who shot and killed a man who was yelling, then shooting indiscriminately at passing motorists and pedestrians on the city's South Side.

David Melgoza, 25, of the 3200 block of Charleston Road, Waukegan, was shot once in the chest Thursday and had a graze wound on his left thigh, according to Waukegan Police Chief Artist Yancey. Melgoza died Thursday at Vista Medical Center East, Waukegan.

The officer, identified only as a 29-year veteran of the police force, was taken to Advocate Condell Medical Center, Libertyville, as a precautionary measure. He was not injured.

Yancey said the patrol officer was responding to another call at 1:13 p.m. when he heard shots fired and responded to 8th and Jackson streets.

Witnesses said Melgoza was yelling at people and cars and fired a shot at someone walking.

He walked away and then fired two more shots at people in the alley. Witnesses told the officer he went down the alley from South Jackson Street toward South Victoria Street.

When the officer drove down the alley, he encountered Melgoza, who opened fire on the officer, who used his police vehicle as a shield.

"There was an exchange of a large amount of gunfire," Yancey said.

He could not say how many shots were fired, but Melgoza used a semi-automatic handgun. The caliber of that gun was not revealed.

"He returned gunfire to neutralize the threat," Yancey said of the officer. "We believe (the officer's) training and experience helped carry him through this horrific ordeal."

"He stopped a danger to that community. If the officer had not responded quickly, more people would have been hurt," said Yancey.

The officer was placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation by the Lake County Major Crime Task Force, which is routine in an officer-involved shooting.

"We don't know the shooter's motivation," the chief said.

Melgoza had been cited for a dozen traffic violations, a mob action charge and attempted aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, according to court records.

Family members did not want to talk Friday to a reporter from the Lake County News-Sun. WAUKEGAN
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So here's one, just to illustrate how ingrained and institutionalized some of the anti-gun ideology is.

In 7th grade Social Studies, everyone in class had to give a speech on some issue of the day. I'm not going to lie, I don't remember a damn thing anyone else talked about, but I remember typical Junior High stuttering and "um's" and not a lot of coherency.

I, being a product of my father (who was never allowed to keep a gun at home because of my mother, but always spoke highly of the 2nd Ammendment), prepared a speech on how the 2nd Ammendment was for the people, arguing what the terms "well-regulated" and "militia" actually mean, and meant at the time, statistics, facts, figures, etc. I practiced that damn speech nightly for the 2 weeks leading up to it, my dad as my main audience.

Finally the big day came, and I got up to the podium, the last speech for that day, and opened with a read ing of the Ammendment itself, and as soon as I started to explain that it applies to the people, my teacher, Mrs. McDonald (I'll never forget her), actually cut me off. The first time she had interjected on anyone's speech that week.

"What do you mean people should have guns?"

Now, as a 12 year old, even after all the prep, this was kind of derailing. I'll never forget her next words as she cut off my stammering attempt to re-read the 2nd Ammendment.

"I am a constitutional expert, and that is simply not how that law is to be interpreted."

Now, we're about 1 minute into a 5 minute speech, and she just told everyone I was wrong. This can mess with a kid's head. I kind of looked down, stuck to my notecards, mumbled a lot, and my triumphant ending of "Guns don't kill people, people do!" was more a final whimper that I got to sit down. Even as I walked to my chair, she berated me in front of the whole class, "your entire speech was incorrect."

B!+$h gave me a C, noting in big red letters,"seemed prepared, but was wrong about material."

My father, who is still a pretty humble guy, never tries to undercut anyone (except certain Presidents from non-Republican parties), when hearing my tale of utter defeat, asked me "So, she's a constitutional expert, huh?"

"yeah, I guess..." I replied, still mostly traumatized.

"Why is she teaching 7th grade history then?"

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

"Why is she teaching 7th grade history then?"

As a husband of a teacher I can safely say that is funny. While there are many very talented and gifted teachers out there, clearly they are not constitutional law experts.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

TyGuy wrote:
"Why is she teaching 7th grade history then?"

As a husband of a teacher I can safely say that is funny. While there are many very talented and gifted teachers out there, clearly they are not constitutional law experts.

my college english teacher was a dog too she told me I was wrong about a supreme court case and that her "cop friend said" that the police do have a legal responsibility to protect me. I refused to remove that part from my paper. on forethought I should have complained to the head of the eng department as she told me that in writting.

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow...some people. The case law on police having no legal responsibility to protect us and no liability when they fail to...that's can't be contended by any stretch.
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