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ShaunKranish
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I wanted to start a thread where members can post fun/entertaining stories. Please only post stories that happened to you personally or someone you know personally. No random Internet stories or publications unless you personally know the person. Your own stories are even better.

Keep them clean, fun, interesting, etc. I'd like to use some for our newsletters. They don't have to involve firearms, but they could. I'll try to think of some of my own too Smile
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GregWilliamson
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Twenty years ago I was in the first grade. I still have a lot of memories of my time at school that year. I remember some of the posters we had on walls. There was the monkey reminding us which was our right hand and the line of fish with the numbers one through twenty printed on their sides. I remember the faces and names of a few of my classmates. But my most vivid memory of that classroom was of the day our lives were threatened and our classroom was robbed.

Sometime in the morning hours of class our door was roughly pushed open and a women bust in. With her disheveled look and quick entrance even a 6 year old like me could tell something was wrong. As the teacher, obviously taken by surprise, politely asked how she could help her, our unexpected visitor quickly moved to the front row of desks and grabbed one of my classmates pulling her from her seat. The little girlís huge worried eyes looked to the teacher as if screaming for help with a voice that she couldnít find through her fear. This fear was justified for now everyone in the class could see that the woman was holding the broken neck of a glass bottle to the little girlís throat. The woman told the teacher she wanted money and food. To which the teacher quickly went to her purse and pulled out what little cash she had been carrying. Saying she didnít have any food, but the cafeteria was across the hall, the teacher handed her the money.

All this time, as I later reported to my parents, ďI sat as still as a statue.Ē There was nothing I could do. I knew my teacher was helpless to stop whatever it was this crazy stranger was doing in our classroom. It was I feeling I wonít forget.

Then as quickly as she had come in she was gone. She let my classmate go as she backed out the door into the hall. She didnít go to the cafeteria for food. She was found a short time later by the local police department about to jump off of a bridge. She was taken into custody and returned to the mental health facility from which she had escaped. (Hopefully with some increased security.)

Our parents where called and came to pick us each up from school that morning. I remember being disappointed I was going to miss lunch. They were having something I was really looking forward to eating. Obviously I was not traumatized from the incident and didnít spend any time with the school provided counselors that were made available. But the lasting impression that it did leave with me was the feeling of helplessness in the face of such an unexpected intrusion into a place where I once felt safe. It caused me to be more aware of my surroundings and of how fast things can change. You canít trust someone else for the safety of yourself, your family, or those around you. I decided that when the time came where I was capable of taking action that I wouldnít wait for anyone else to do it. I would be the difference.

I thank God that no one was hurt that day. I now have a six year old son, the cutest four year old girl in the world, and also a one year old son. As such I have the responsibility to not only protect them when possible, but also to teach them, within their abilities, of their responsibility to protect themselves and those around them in the event of danger. Not that a six year old could have done anything at my school that day, sitting still was definitely the way to go. What I want to teach them is what they should and shouldnít do in case of danger and that someday they will be responsible for their own protection and that of others. Donít pretend that nothing bad will ever happen, it will. Donít believe that it could never happen to you or those you love, it can. Even in a state that (currently) denies us our right to bear arms we do have other lesser defense options available within the law. So until the time we can carry without fearing the law, find out what is available. Decide whatís right for you and yours, and be safe out there.
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ShaunKranish
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

thanks so much for sharing, gregaw. That's a really good story. It's always good to be aware of our surroundings, and be prepared to handle situations that arise like this one. Thank God nothing went wrong that time, and the woman was satisfied with the money.

It's important to be prepared especially in the places that mean the most to us, like you said the places that we feel secure. To be unprepared in THOSE places could mean dealing with that feeling of helplessness you described for a long time. Obviously you were too young to be prepared, so it's a great example of why parents and teachers need to be able to protect their children.
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MikeLong
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Outagamie County, WI
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's a dumb gun handling one, but not a negligent discharge...

I recently bought a Mosin Nagant M91/30. I assume most of you know how these things put the LONG in LONG ARMS. Well, I had taken it apart to clean all the Cosmoline out of it, reassembled it, and was working on cleaning up the wood and making it pretty when I got the great idea to put on the bayonet. Bad idea... The thing won't go on all the way, so I force it on. Couple pretend jabs, stab an empty box or two, you know, just for fun. Then I sit down and try to take it off. Won't budge. Sat it up on the couch. Slipped a little and... well... There's a nice chunk out of the wall... Moral of the story: Don;t force your bayonet on if you aren't willing to replace some sheetrock.
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CraigCelia
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I always hate to bash the police, just because I am in that arena myself but many years ago, when I was a civilian desk clerk for a PD, the cops used to bring in their prisioners pretty close to where I always sat to do my clerical duties.

One day, one of the officers brought in a really drunk DUI offender who was pretty close to where I had been. One of my duties was to bring officers their paperwork.

After bringing this one officer his papers, I noticed he had searched this guy again after he was uncuffed (I was told he was search by two officers out on the street also). As I was standing there, he finds a pistol on the guy.

Now you have a really drunk dude, armed with a pistol, in the police station, uncuffed, AFTER he was searched by two officers on the street, and they find this. You should have seen the look on this arresting officers face when he found it....talk about a major oops! I about @*$& in my pants......
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AdamPeterson
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

One day when I was about 10 years old, I stayed home from school claiming to be "sick". (It just so happened to be the first really warm day in spring too. haha) So around mid-afternoon I begged and pleaded with my mom to let me ride my bike. "Just once down the street and right back," is what she said, "you are supposed to be sick." Out the door like a bolt of lightning I went. Well me being the unruley kid I was decided to take my bike ride around the block. Once I got to the first corner, I seen a group of 10-20 teenage/adult men sprinting out of the woods with baseball bats, sticks, and one of them had a knife. I peddled my heart out around the rest of the block and back home. Once I got back in front of my house, I seen a different group of about 20 teenage/adult men walking down the same street the first group was running down but the second group wasn't holding bats, sticks and knives, they had guns. Hand guns, rifles, shotguns, you name it. I didn't live in the country. I lived in a rural city with a population of about 100,000. Those guys weren't a group of hunters or country boys shootin at beer bottles, they were gang bangers. Obviously I lived in the rough part of town, the south-east side. "GET YOUR BUTT IN THE HOUSE," yelled my mom. When I got in there, she had the coach side-by-side shotty in one hand and 911 in the other. That afternoon sticks in my head like glue and I will always remember that shotgun in my mom's hand.
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ShaunKranish
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I guess no one taught the guys in the stick/bat group the first rule of a gun fight!!!
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jchbroker
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

When I was 9 years old (1959) a guy barricaded himself in his house after some domestic disturbance (not sure about that). The cops were negotiating with this guy to give up. All the residents were standing in back of the cops watching them seek protection behind their squads, etc. They guy kept on yelling that he was going to take out one of those people. The cops tried their best to get them away but they wouldn't move (IDIOTS!!!!!). The cops ended up rushing the guy and killing him. Negotiations would have worked if the IDIOTS weren't standing there. Sad
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WilliamSchriever
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Grundy County, IL
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Joined: Dec 03, 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Rubber-neckers and sightseers are a huge hindrance to law enforcement and can cause further injury and more. Am I correct that people can be arrested for that, at least a ticket?
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WilliamSchriever
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Grundy County, IL
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I told Shaun this story and I guess this would be the appropriate place to share it with you all.

When I was working at the Pontiac Correctional Center, I was called for an interview at the Joliet Correctional Center. My wife and I went to Joliet the day before and spent the night in a local motel. That morning of the interview, we left the room and on the way to our vehicle, I heard someone behind me say, Hey Schriever, is that your wife!" Somewhat startled, I turned to see and ex-inmate from Pontiac that I had problems with. I immediately stepped in front of my wife, between the ex-con and her unlocking the door and put her into it, whispering to lock the door behind her. I then acknowledged him and said, "yes, it is and that I had to get to an appointment and hoped he was doing well. All the time I was looking around expecting others since I knew him to be a gangbanger. There was no one else, so I unlocked my drivers side door and got in, securing it and then proceeded to leave. I have to tell you, people that work in corrections, dread that situation and I certainly would have felt better if I had been allowed to legally carry back then as well as now.

Oh, and I did get the position by the way. Very Happy
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jchbroker
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes they can get arrested, William. But then again this was 1959 when times were simpler.

I'm dreading the future when this gangbanger gets out after a 60 year stint for Murder. He promised me that he will "take me out" when he gets out. Knowing this guy he will be looking for me. Hopefully, he'll die in jail or in my case I might be dead. You figure 60 years and 1/3 is 20 years so time for him to be paroled. I hope I'm wrong. Thank God I can conceal and carry! I hope everyone in Illinois will have this right that the copper's lobbyists got for us.
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WilliamSchriever
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jchbroker,
I agree with you that he will indeed be looking for you when he gets out, that's their mentality. It is indeed a very good thing that you are allowed by law to carry.
I too hope that these communistic gun restriction laws in this state are cleaned up so they allow innocent Americans to protect themselves, while Keeping the laws that condemn and restrict weapons from criminals.
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JamieHarris
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Lee County, IL
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You are so very right William. I think we should be allowed to carry! Here is a little story,

This past summer, my fiance and I went to a restaurant here in Dixon to eat lunch. We walked in the door and I looked to my right and saw a guy (ex-con on parole) sitting there in the booth with another person. I immediately knew who he was because I had manned the building many times that he was housed in. I looked away and we went and sat on the other side of the room. About a half hour later with my fiance facing the front door, I noticed her eyes had gotten a little big and I kind of looked over my shoulder and he was approaching the table. He got to the table and he started pointing his finger at me stating, "I know you, I know you from somewhere" I played it off and told him he must have me mixed up with someone else. He kept pointing his finger and insisting that he knew me. After at least three times telling him this, he got angry, still pointing his finger and stated, "We'll meet again, you'll see, we'll meet again, you'll see" and he turned and left the restaurant.
I ended up contacting his parole agent who supposedly took care of the situation and I also wrote a report and turned it in to the warden just so it would be documented but William, you know as well as I do that doesn't do anything.

So, that is why we need Concealed Carry here in Illinois and also we as Correctional Officers need to be allowed to carry because we never know who we will encounter and where. This ex-con also asked if i lived in Dixon but I didn't answer him. You just never know and I didn't know if this guy would try and come to my house or not.

It's kinda scary out there sometimes and we definitely need Concealed Carry here in Illinois so lets get going and do some heavy recruiting and push for this and not give up until we obtain our goal.


Jamie Harris
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TylerH
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I already posted this in another forum entry, but I thought it was a "neat story" and should thus be added here.

A pregnant woman she works with was at home with her husband and dog on Sunday night in our quiet little suburb when a loud banging began at their front door. She thought it was a friend of hers just joking around so she got up to go to the front door, keep in mind that she is about 6 months pregnant now. As she nears the door she hears shouting and swearing with the continued banging, so instead of immediately opening the door she looks out the side window. Standing there is a half crazed man with blood on his hands, shirt, face, and "blood comming out of his eyes." He is pounding on the door, swearing, and shouting, "open the *&#$ing door!" Well she runs back and tells her husband. He grabs a hammer (best they have), grabs their dog, tells her to call 911, and then they head to the basement.

Thankfully the man left their house, but he went right over to their neighbor's house. He eventually broke down the door and got in. The gentlemen living there was able to wrestle with him and finally scare him off as the police arrived to catch the intruder who was apparently high on meth.

I tried to find more information by filling a freedom of information act request with the Sherrif's office, but they aren't releasing the information yet.
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ShaunKranish
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I split the posts here regarding DOC carry to a new thread:

http://www.icarry.org/ftopict-1989.html

They are completely intact there. I did that because this thread will be looked at by a lot of new members and I'd like to keep it on-topic so people can read interesting stories Smile
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